Punjabis don’t use the word tribe or “qabeela” for descent groups opting for the word, biradri meaning brotherhood instead. The biradries & their status in the pre-modern world was determined based on their occupation at the time & the primary way to raise one’s & their descent group’s standing before the rise of finance capitalism was through the right of sword.
One of the major biradries in Punjab are the Rajputs, which translates as “a king’s son” encompassing various clans such as the Bhattis, Khokhars & Gakhars. The Rajputs aren’t just limited to The Punjab as clans claiming to be Rajputs can be found all across the Northern Indic belt from Gujarat to Azad Jammu Kashmir to Hazara division.
The Rajput wasn’t always a lineage group though as we know it today, rather it started out as an open category; a product of social mobility through military service. This, brings me to the objective of this post & that is to demonstrate that the Rajput was a social identity, which was at one point attainable before its crystallization in to a lineage group from 16th century, the Rajput title wasn’t a hereditary one. [1]
To clarify, I use the term Rajput confederation only for the Punjabi context as these clans are an essential component of the Punjabi ethno-linguistic fabric.
Hereditary Title:
It is argued that Thakura, Rauta & Rajputra are proto-Rajput terms, until the term Rajput itself became the norm, however inscriptions or legal documents formulated before the 16th century which is part of the argument of this piece that the identity doesn’t start to crystallize until the said period; there is ample evidence to suggest that these titles were not necessarily hereditary.
Let’s examine an inscription from 1296 AD of the Chahamanas or Chauhans of Jalor (Rajasthan). It records the founding of a bazaar & portion of the income generated is to be donated to the Parsvanatha temple.
“Ṭhakura Āṃbaḍa’s son (was) ṭhakura Jasa (whose) son (was) sonī Mahaṇasīha (whose) wife (was) Mālhaṇi (and their) sons (were) sonī(s) Ratanasīha, Ṇākhī, Mālhaṇa, and Gajasīha. (Sonī Mahaṇasīha was also married to) Tihuṇā (and their) sons (were) sonī(s) Narapati, Jayatā, and Vijayapāla. Narapati and wife Nāyakadevī’s sons (were) Lakhamīdhara, Bhuvaṇapāla, and Suhaḍapāla. Narapati’s second wife (dvitīyabhāryā) (was) Jālhaṇadevī” [2]
As we can see the title Thakura fades away by the third generation as Mahanasiha is stated being a “Soni”, who are said to be gold merchants. If the inscription is so tedious as to pen down a genealogical tree of temple donors then surely the Thakura title would have been mentioned before every name as it did for the first two generation? Why was it be dropped if it wasn’t an attainable administrative rank? Let’s not forget inscriptions are legal documents, so accuracy in capturing relevant information about the individual particularly their social status was paramount.
Let’s review another inscription from 1274 A.D. this time from the Paramara dynasty of the Malwa (not Punjab) region:
“ rauta Rāṭa of the Cāhamāna clan, his son Palhaṇadevavarman, his son Sallakṣaṇasiṃha, and his son (and donor) Anayasiṃha.” [3]
This inscription’s phrasing would suggest that Rauta title is being applied to all Chauhans (Cahamana) here. However, a later passage confirms the argument of this essay:
“two shares [of the donated land go to] the kṣatriya sādhanika Anayasiṃhavarma who is the son of sā° Salaṣaṃ(kha)ṇasiṃhavarma who is the son of sā° Palhadevavarma who is of the flourishing Cāhamāna clan” [4]
Anayasimha the descendant of Rata (the person not the Rauta title) is referred to as Sadhanika, which is a General, meaning the rauta title was not passed on & rather lost by later generations. Lineage is continuous, so if Rajput was indeed not an attainable social status the descendants would also be mentioned as such.
Moving on to the Rajaputra title, we have an inscription from 1176 A.D. which mentioned “rajaputra Rajasimha” in the Paramara Dynasty, who had to step in and decide a dispute where a land grant to the Brahmin community was being revoked. As we see in the previous inscription also from the Paramara Dynasty of Malwa that the protocol is to discuss lineages. So, why aren’t we informed of Rajasimsha’s father? The failure to do in this case serves as evidence that Rajasimha had attained the rank of “rajaputra” based on merit. Perhaps, it just wasn’t relevant to add here, so we move to the next inscription from 1083 AD, which shows the loss of rajaputra status:
“the (dūtaka) here is Raṇadhavala, the son of Cāhamāna rājaputra Sagaṃḍā. (The symbol is the mark) of the king of kings Vijayasiṃha.” [5]
Interestingly, rajaputra is mentioned for Sagamda, but not his son Ranadhavala, who is written as a dutaka, a royal messenger, which was a coveted position as it involved being associated with the Royal Court, but definitely no rajaputra implying that Ranadhavala fell out of favour with Cahamana dynasty.
Another point to note is none of these inscriptions discuss the Rajput warrior code & values associated with the name, such as jauhar, so where exactly does this code of conduct stem from? We move on to the next portion of this piece.
Rajput as a Concept:
The Rajput code of conduct is a product of folklore narrated by bards (professional storytellers). The two primary texts which served this purpose are the Kānhaḍade Prabandha & the Hammīra Mahākāvya, which are both stories of Hindu resistance against the Muslim expansion of the Delhi Sultanate ruled by the Khalji dynasty. The annexation of India disturbed the political & social equilibrium of the Indic sphere, prompting a search for new narratives. [6]
Written in the 1400s, these epics laid the bedrock for the emerging Rajput identity, which was still an open category until that point & served as an instruction manual for what constitutes a rajaputra or a Rajput. The common themes are fighting till death & blind loyalty to the ruler because it was only through betrayal could an Alauddin Khalji conquer a Rajput fortress; such as the Ratipāla character undermining his masters on behalf of Khaljis & then formally joining their camp. This narrative can all be traced to folklores & their spinoffs that were contextualized in local vernaculars like the Hammīra Mahākāvya, circling back to the point on new narratives [7]
However, despite becoming the sort of Janisaaries or Crusader Knight of Hindu world, the Rajput is ironically not a Kshtriya, the social mobility Rajput category provided deviates from the Hindu varna system. So, what became a symbol of Hindu resistance is in fact a byproduct of Muslim rule in Hindustan. The Rajput identity emerged as a clash of civilizations between the Muslims & the Hindus, the urge to seek new narratives as mentioned earlier. It simply would not have been the case if these wars were among Indic kingdoms as it was the case for centuries. [8]
Take the Mahimasahi character in the Hammīra Mahākāvya, who was based on a Muslim soldier Muhammad Shah. He originally hailed from Central Asia, a Mongol convert to Islam, who had rebelled against his Khalji employers & died for the Cahamana cause despite being offered amnesty by Alauddin. Unconditional loyalty to the ruler & fighting till the end is what the Rajput does according to this epic.
The Kāṇhaḍade Prabandh does use the actual word Rajput twice (2.18 & 4.120), but the connotation is very ethnic along with turaka (Turk) mūṃgala (Mongol) as opposed to the one we know today. [9] Going off topic, but Khaljis are not mentioned as Afghans here even after a century of their arrival in Hindustan.
Another epic which outlines the key characteristics that constitute a Rajput: i) loyalty ii) courage iii) destruction of family before imminent defeat iv) victory through death i.e. the tragic hero is the Epic of Pabuji. The summary below does an adequate job outlinng the aforementioned qualities:
Epic of Pabuji: A Summary
The Epic of Pabuji is about a son of a regional ruler, who is born with extraordinary powers. At one point in the story, Pabuji gives an oath that he would leave everything to protect the Caran clan, so long he acquires a mythical horse called Cesar Calami. When Pabuji gets married he refuses to bow his head infront of a woman to receive tilaka & instead has a donkey & offers his horse instead stating “Rathors do not bow the head before a woman”. One variation of the story narrates how during Pabuji’s wedding ceremony, word arrives the Caran clan has been attacked, so he drops everything as promised to go defend them. The battle between Pabuji & the attacker of Caran clan, Khichi ends with exchange of weapons, since only Pabuji’s sword can take his life. When the wife of Pabuji hears about her husband’s demise, she prepare for “sati” ritual. The widow of Buro, who is one of Pabuji’s comrades is asked to not proceed with the ceremony, because she is seven months pregnant, but instead Dod-Gehali, the wife cuts out her baby to be using a knife & proceeds with self-immolation. [10]
Genealogy & Legitimacy:
Legitimacy is one of the core components of a political order, the Bynzatine Empire with all its stature & glory, even the Muslim Ottomans claimed continuity from Rome, Mughals saw their rule on Hindustan as a continuity to Timur; who himself claimed descent from Genghis Khan (questionable). The Ghaznavids & Ghurids obtained legitimacy through the Abbasid Caliphate because these claims sought to add prestige & legitimacy to their rule. Stories written & contextualized by professional story tellers known as bards patronized by local dynasties & tribal chiefs that carved out their niches post-Timur that lead to weakening of Delhi Sultanate authority; now seeking to legitimize their standing as a ruling house would facilitate the genealogical engineering.
Think of the “agnikula” legend where Paramāra, Caulukya & Pratīhāra clans emerged from fire sacrifice. [11]. These narratives provided these ruling houses with a historical depth where they can trace their origins to a common ancestor & project it on to rest of the clan. [12]
Pastoral nomads were another contenders to the Rajput status after evolving into landed gentry. [13] Evolution from hunter gathering nomads to settled peasants entailed weakening of the tribal chief’s authority, who would be responsible for the tribe’s well being, but with relative stability of food security that agriculture provides this authority tends to fade. Therefore, in order to retain this legitimacy, the styling of oneself as a royal with descent from a “great ancestor” facilitated by bards who served as “brokers” between nomad pastoralist to Rajput status was a common theme, but this process took centuries to take course. This would explain the many nomadic Jatt / Jat clans who became Rajputized in The Punjab.
Military Labour Market:
Another thing, which contributed to the formation of a Rajput identity was Timur’s sacking of Delhi Sultanate, which weakened the Sultanate to a vassal, where the Sayyid dynasty styled themselves as Viceroys of Timur. It encouraged former Tughlaq dynasty governors such as the Punjabi Muslims posted down south to declare themselves independent & founded the Gujarat Sultanate. Then there was the Bengal, Malwa & Deccan ones. The fragmentation lead to continuous warfare on the Indic chessboard among the various states, which then lead to a race for tapping in to the vast rural military labour market.
Case in point, the Jaunpur Sultanate had recruited peasants from Eastern Gagnetic plains in to their army, but after the Lodhi dynasty wiped out the Sultanate, the recruits then went on to offer their services to Malwa Sulatanate. There these mercenaries became known as Purbiya Rajputs, the former indicating their Gagnetic origin, but the point being made here is the open nature of the Rajput identity, that can be acquired via military service under a master who claimed as such. [13]
Part 2: A Punjabi Muslim Perspective
The fluidity of the Rajput category can be seen in The Punjab in how certain clans claim both Rajput & Jatt status. Kharals, Sials, Khokhars, Bhattis are some of the clans who depending on their location claim either or. Many of these clans transitioned from pastoral nomads to landed agriculturalists, so back to the point under the Genealogy & Legitimacy heading on tribal chiefs reasserting their authority. The sub-clans who became nobles in Mughal Empire by when the Rajput identity had crystallized (or close) became Rajputs whereas, the ones who stayed agrarian claim Jat / Jatt one.
The Kharral Case:
The Kharal / Kharral are recognized as Rajputs who claim descent from Raja Karan, a character in Mahabharata according to a British Raj era servant, H.A. Rose, but many identify as Jatts. This can be seen in the “A Glossary of the Tribes & Castes of the Punjab”, where “Jaboke” are identified as a Muhammadan Jatt sub-clan of Montgomery Kharrals whereas the “Jakhar” clan are known to be Rajputs.
There is a good reason for this Rajput status claim, because during the reign of Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir, which was the latter part of Mughal statehood & the Rajput status had certainly been crystallized. The Kharrals & more specifically Kamalia variety had attained nobility status when their elder Saadat Yar Khan was arrested & presented in court, but he talked his way out of it & ended up receiving a Jagir instead. Not only that he was granted an army of 12,000 to put down an Afghan (Pashtun) rebellion in Pind Dadan Khan, ironically his father Mauhabbat Khan was murdered at the instigation of Qureshis of Multan; an episode as we know will repeat itself in 1857. The more things change the more they remain the same! [14]
Concluding Remarks:
Now, the objective here was to demonstrate that Rajput as a descent group started out as an open category, which crystallized later on & like any tribal/ethnic identity it was attainable. Despite the usage of professional story tellers to weave genealogies, it does not take away from the martial prowess of these clans.
As, it was stated in the first paragraph, before the rise of finance capitalism, the primary way to change one’s status was through picking up the sword. So, despite the odd attempts at connecting oneself to some mythical ancestor, the clans falling under the Rajput label should be proud of their elders distinguishing themselves on the battlefield. Just like Timur’s questionable claims on being descendant of Genghis Khan doesn’t negate whatever he achieved for his people.
This also doesn’t imply that the non-Rajputs biradries are not martial or that the Artisan classes of Punjab are lesser beings. Politics & Economics go hand in hand, both of which are guided by Philosophical principles. Plus no Halal profession is lowly, this is simply jahilliyah we still carry despite converting to Islam centuries ago. Prophets have been artisans, shepherds & the role that the Ahi fraternity/trade guilds of Anatolia played in that region are proof why we need to reevaluate our views.
I genuinely could care less about who claims what status outside Punjab nor is this post directed at them, but within the Punjabi context, the overall point besides showing the development of Rajput identity is not to take biradrism too seriously beyond nominal demarcations, which can be utilized for the benefit of Punjabiyat & not as a discriminatory tool amongst each other. This only allows hostile elements who first arrive as harmless shopkeepers to start asserting their will.
The Warraich-Gakhar saga in post-Mughal Punjab is a chilling example, where the former was attached to Sikhs & the latter Durranis, neither is remembered by history because of their in-fighting & reliance on outsiders to do justice, whereas both of their masters left their own marks in history.
References:
[1] Eaton, R. (2019). India in Persianate Age pg.128
[2] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. pgs. 165-167
[3] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 175.
[4] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 176
[5] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pgs. 179- 180
[6] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 223
[7] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 230
[8] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 258
[9] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 243
[10] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 132
[11] Bednar, M. Conquest and Resistance in Context: A Historiographical Reading of Sanskrit and Persian Battle Narratives. Pg. 180
[12] Eaton, R. (2019). India in Persianate Age pg.130-133
[13] Eaton, R. (2019). India in Persianate Age pg.132
[14] Panjab Gazetteer, Vol 7, 1883
Punjabi Waseb 
Bhai we pakistni use the word “Zaat” or “Nasal” to describe the indo aryan races qoums or nations. The Indians already have a word which they use till today to refer us as to “mleech” .The concept of brahmins and baniya race is alien to indo aryan-punjabi Muslims. Even ethnic kashmiri Muslims are not really brahmin as they are of Dardic-indi origin. The Dardic race is a separate race which closely aligned allied with indo aryans during the Huna invasions. Kashimiri muslims regard the kashmiri Hindus as outsiders as they came in much later. UP-Bihar are the center stage of Brahmins while rajasthan and gujarat are the traditional homes of the baniya race caste. Just like khana bodosh gypsies who come from gujarat and rajasthan , the gujratis and marwari in Pakistt region before partition all came from gujarat rajasthan. The only ones who some what match the India Hindu caste system in Pakistan region are the fake Syeds who have filled in the role of brahmins and muhajir Patel and Memons communities in Pakistan. However unlike Brahmins and baniya in India. The foreign syeds and gujrati muhajir are not central to Pakist reg system. The baniya caste has nothing to do with the khatris.
The khatris are are a dif race from Trading castes that came alongside Hun indo aryan.. Khatri Sheikh are over 50% to 51% of punjabi khatri population. While in Sindh sheikhs make up 40% of the Muslim khatri population.Contrast this, with hindu population punjabis. Khatris make up 90%of sindi hindu population and almost 70% of Hindu punjabi population.
I think this is 1 of the major reasons why the Brahmin kabul shahi dynasty never resonates with indo aryan Muslims as they were outsiders. The balochistani raja dhair brahamin dynasty. was fiercely opposed by sindhi jats and oth sindhis.
Please if you can then, do a discussion on the Partition of India 1947 and future of Pakistan in Asia regi.
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To rephrase what I meant: by nwfp pashtuns being anti fascist like southern Italian nepolitians, ‘is less fascist not complete anti fascist like southern Italians as few fascists also came from southern Italy’. It’s mainly due to culture difference.
I. E. I most Sikhs are pro fascist and but a few are anti fascist or.
BTW all most all afghan migrant groups are a threat to the stability of Pakistan. We shouldn’t divulge on different afghan ethnicities and how tajiks or hazara are better the afghan pashtuns etc. Under the Afghan pashtun vichy state the hazaras and tajiks were right at forefront of trying to destabilse pakistan. We shouldn’t forget this so when people talk of sending back afghans it’s not just afghan pashtuns but all afghans that should be removed. Exceptions are nuristani pashayi and indo aryan jats Gujjars of Afghanistan. They are mostli neutral and not involved in anti pakista activities.
The thing to notic is that at best Afghanistan will be netural. The Afghan pashtun royal family has fascist imprints just the northern Italian royal family. So much so that they have built relationships with Indians like Italian royals had relations with nazi Germans. I. E. Ex partner of Rahul gandhi was a afghan princess.
You know its amazing when afghans or tribial Pashtuns of balochistan fata say they wouldn’t have relations with non pashtuns or so called “dark non pashtun” when these same supposedly superior ‘frankish” blood pashtun were giving their wife’s and daughters to African Somalians Sudanese and darkest of Arabs from the Arabian peninsula during Afghan war 1980s and war on terror 2001-2021. Its the same so called dal khor military that saved these pashtuns from Al qaeda and terrorist groups in fata but they hate it.
Baloch, some pashtuns, muhajir, shia will never be loyal to pakistan. This fact needs to be learned and appeasement stopped full stop!
A few lessons can be learned from India. The Sikhs largely want khalistan. A few Sikhs in other areas may be loyal to India. But just like fata northern balochistan the Sikhs in Malwa heartland are the most vocal in khalistan circle. Many of their leaders come from Malwa area like simranjit singh, Bhindrewala. No matter what India does they will never be loyal to India!
Similarly the border Pashtuns made it clear they want nothing to do with Pak. Fakir of ippi and achakzai wanted their own state. Even Bacha khan is buried in jalalabad and he considered himself afghan.
Just like Bacha Khan Allama mashrqi also opposed partition but he was not a traitor!
Even the pro pak JUI F has split with border pashtuns wanting their own state.
Even if you give autonomy to fata northern balochistan like corsica, Sardinia they will want their own state.
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Dravidian Brahui* are largely anti pakistani and will never be loyal not baloch. However the baloch are not native to pakistan and largely come from Iran. As such they have no particular revernce for Pakist. This is not their land and even though they have a visceral hatred of pashtuns they engage in similar customs of pashtuns.
India shares many similarities with Pakistan and there shouldnt be problem it. E. G. The Sikhs pashtuns have many similarities. The Gandhis of Pakistan the Muhaji Bhuttos. The Gandhis are anti Pashtun and anti Sikh while the Bhuttos are anti Sikh anti Pashtun.Indira gandhi got murdered by Sikhs and Benzair bhutto by Pashtun gun and attack bombers.its amazing to a non pashtun viewer how the dumb and stupid Pashtun-Sikh still give so much respect to these 2 parties and blame Punjabi for all their wrong doings. When benzair was murdered , nearly a 100 pashtuns were killed in riots by PPP thugs all across pakistan. BB was only 1 who supported lal masjid 2007 invasion which mainly affected tribial pashtuns. Yet these parties are called champions of secular democracy! Both Gandhis and Bhuttos have married in to Sikh and Pashtun householde.
Both Sikhs and Pashtuns blame non indo aryans-indo aryans yet run straight to non sikh non pashtun Indian Pakistanis regarding Afghanistan/border pashtuns khalistan.
That’s why indo aryan Pakistanis Dardic kashimiri Sindhi Punjabi should stick together and stop worrying Sikhs Pashtuns or outsiders.
More then linguistic aspect the racial set up needs to be also well protected. Indo aryans should stop marrying outside the indoic ascept as it dull and degrades the honour and loyalty of Biradri System!!!
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Bhai, I have been reading some of tweets there is no need to be that alarmist. do you know the 2 races the afghan pashtuns fear and hate the most? Turkic & Arabs. Yes that’s right. Have you ever wondered why pashtuns have such a almost genocidal hatred for hazaras vice versa?. Perhaps you give bit too much importance to myth of pashtun history. These shameless afghans talk about non pashtuns in a derogatory manner. Well do you know the 1 qoum that has had almost erasure of their dna in world is,?
Pashtuns,through studies it was found out that the hazaras in Afghanistan share a lot with pashtun dna and blood. Just like the French were annually raped by Frank Roman the afghans pashtuns were throughly a whipped by arab and mongol turks so much so that there emerged a race of half mongoloieds in Afghanistan “Hazaras”. Hazaras are perhaps the only mongol ied grouping in world that share characteristics similar and colour with pashtuns. They are are also 1 of few mongoloids that are tall due to Caucasian pashtun dna. A nation which has been annually raped by outsiders may talk big but in truth suffers from huge insecurity issuu. Non pashtuns need to know history of th people to find truth. Pashtuns have sold their daughters to outsiders like cakes not just the ordinary but including the royalty. From Alexander to the british durrani to bacha khan and barakzais. Heck even the so called pure pashtun tribes of fata were busy selling their womenfolk a to black africans saudi and uae Arabs.
The fat corrupt coward bajwa was rightly ousted from Pak army. Whatever 1 thinks of taliban khan. The whole episode of fascist khan niaz means the domination of this corrupt instution is at an end. Thanks to Pmln the rule of law and civilian supremacy is here to stay no matter what. The poltical quandering is a huge lesson for non pashtun. Relying on pashtuns and Pashtun appeasement will lead to depressiveand Harmful consquences. I won’t be surprised if afghan start selling their daughters to Chinese for lowest amount of price. The only way pak can have stability is if we stay neutral and outside Afghanistan problems. Let the turkic central Asian states link up and help Afghanistan. Why should pak waste efforts in trying to link up with central Asia when it’s they who want transit the most. I have said this before the pashtun are not religious extremists but fascists. The afghans hate the taliban and the barbaric regime will not last couple of years. Their support for terrorist groups will backfire and big powers may get involved. Afghan pashtuns have never been religious. This wahhabi import is contrary to the secular history of afghans pashtuns. Unfortunately some of this was pushed during zia and we have to remove this stain as wahhabism is also outside version import and against moderate indic islam. The Arabs are also anti afghan. There is no option but for the corrupt establishment to confined to barracks. The idiots at ISI run straight to civilians at 1st sign of trouble. Did they think helping the gangst fascist taliban will lead to stability?. This so called establishment policy is failed policy that has nothing to do with punjabi. You may heard recent reports about cricket and other spo. Bringing pashtuns in and expecting them to deliver is height of idiocy and stupidity. The only reason pak has left a little of saving face is because from 1947-1972 the ruling establishment was pashtun muhajir. Yet this harami bajwa wants to indulge in matters that do not concern him. We lost in 65 (Tashkent) and 71 because we had fascist pashtun dictators and leaders. You would think after the niazi fall out this kanjar shaking begharait g would acknowledge his insutionional failings rather then again put blame. Just like babar azam supporting medicore pashtun cricketers against advice leading to constant failures. The corrupt establishment support of imran khan, malik riyaz kakakzai, Aleem khan, jahangir tareen will lead nothing but to wanton destruction unsuccessful. Just take example of Tunisiaa victory against France fifa world cup. They are successful because Tunisia is original purre lan of berber who spread to other area. Over 67% of Tunisia is pure berber.They have unity and cohesion. Despite being over 73. 5% indic population.The Corrupt system in pak favours 8% muhajir and 12%pashtun. In Pak pashtun, Shia,Muhajir and baloch lobbies are hard at work denying Pakistani Indic their legimatate share in development. To try and disguise their evil handywork they try to put pashtun shia baloch muhajir in the punjabi category where are as we have never accepted this. E. G. The fake spokesman of punjabis Shia najam sethi calling imran khan punjabi and blaming punjabi and wanting to Divide province. Its similar to how idiotic Indians blame every thing wrong regarding Pakistan on punjabi muslims i. E. Calling muhajir or shia Pro India activists as punjabi. If they want to blame some 1 for partition it should be their own people and Indian Muslims. We punjabi indics had nothing and have nothing to do with ganga civilization! .
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Bro in order to look to future you have to know your Geography-History. The tragedy with Partition 1947 is that even if it is absolutely ridiculous, some have hijacked or tried to highjack the indo aryan Pakistani muslim Perspective.
Pakistan is a homeland of indo aryan Muslims and we should never eva shy away from that. By indo aryan I mean Dardics, kashimiri sindhi punjabi sunni Muslims. Even Kashimiris dardics are described as pale so called indo nordics. By indo aryan I mean language not the inaccurate nazi-hindu race.
In neighbourhood there are many similarities with Europe. Even though they have poor development in India compared to Europe. 80% of Republic of India has direct insipration from Germany, 15% British and 5% usa(Southern America_south India). UP and Bihar is the England and Wales of India. Rajasthan is the Baveria of India while Gujarat is the “Nureumburg” Francophina of India. Madhya pradesh is like Saxony of germany and Maharashtra the “Prussia”” of India. Looking at this you can get an idea of how to do deal with this expansionist monstroisty that is ” Bahrat”. Indians have never been lovers of west except Germany and Japan and maybe Turkey. Staying away from these 3 countries is best advised for Pakistan as these 3 along with their new found ally India will plunge the world in to ww3 and even get a chance at winning. Study the history of imperial Germany and nazis and you will get EU. India is the fascist poorer version of Germany in South Asia while Turkey is Japan of Middle East. None of them should ever have nuclear weapons. I’m glad the truth of Turkish hating Pakistanis came out as they are racist white wannabes. Despite the lip service these Kipchak Greek halfbreeds have no time for ummah Only eyes on the pakistani nuclear Program. Now 1 can understand the bratualities and atrocities inflicted on arabised leveantine mesoptomian populations and lebeanse by these Turkish murderers. Both Egyptians and moroccoans love Turkey and India. All those who were in support of or who colloberated with Central and axis powers in ww1 have the imperialist and fascist state ofmin. E. G. Indonesian colloberation with Japanese fascists in ww2. The countries or populations who willingly colloberated with Germany and nazis in both ww1 and ww2 hate both Russia & China and the west. They want their own hegemony come to the fore.
2 of the most important and evil empires have been the British and Nazi empires sharing many of the ideas and similarities.
The so called western bloc is not United but separate with 4 different groupings.
(1st)British-Swedish led Europe who at various times were supporters of Germany-fasacists until it backfired on them but still these countries retain fascist sympathies such as as thier alliance with India.
There is also the American led 5 eyes system but America doesn’t have real allies as nobody trusts America.
(2nd grouping) German led Western bloc with France and Spain as former fascist entities. Along with Japan and Turkey as allies.
(3rd grouping) also can be called the fake netruals like Belgium or Switzerland which claim to be neutral but tilt towards india. Similarly Denmark Netherlands have tilt for Pakistt. Eastern Europe much of which is under influence of China or Russia.
(4th grouping) Countries which are against or fought against imperialist ideologies be it Anglo saxon communist or any other fascist led Power or powers. On paper they are part of western bloc but are actually Neutral countries or sovereign countries who make their own decisions in line with specific with their national interests. E. G. Coffee Club Lebanon Oman, Uruguay, Peru. Qatar Kuwait Austria, Slovenia, Norway, Portugal Malta, Iceland Kosovo Cyprus etcc. (Pakistt also comes in to this grouping as both the soviet and American led invasions of Pakistan threatened the stability of PakiSt() .
This fact is very important when discussing Pakistt. E. G. the lebanese who were pro ally in both world wars like Pakistan in contrast with the Palestinians who were Turkish and nazi collaborators and prefer India. Pakistt should stay neutral and not be a part of communist or Anglo saxon hegemony!
Fascist powers are our natural enemies.
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Now coming to Pakistan instead of imposing 1 unit (which was done by outsiders) indo aryan must take a initiative and not let a repeat happen. The state of Pakistan is a diverse nation and this must be reflected! it doesn’t even make sense to impose a outside Top above ideology. Because it will never work, Know your ground realities!
When Pakistan was created there were major arguments and disgareements. Respect those sentiments and don’t try to hide or Cover them up because then you make the situation worse. E. G. There were 4 situations which occurred in the borders of pakistani state. 1) The Shias of batlistan did not initially join pakistan as they wanted their own Republic. It was the Sunni Muslims of Gilgit agency who were at fore front of liberation struggle in 1947. The kalat state dravidaian brahuis wanted kalat to stay independent or join India. Northern balochistan pashtuns wanted merger with Afghanistan or india/Fata. Fata tribials wanted merger with Afghanistan or independence or joining India.
Kalat brahuis are like Canary islanders. The Iranians are like Catholic Spain. Afghanistan was called the) Gaul of Alexander and Greeks. It has often been compared to France or vichy France.
The Pashtuns in Pakistan are like Italians. Fata is like Corsica, (corsicians feel French or corsician despite small Italian iredentist in past). Similarly Sardinians feel French, Spanish or Sardinian nationalist just like northern balochistan pashtuns who go from Iranian, Afghan or independent. The point I’m making is that no matter what appeasement corsica and Sardinia will never be Italian. Both fata and northern
Pashtun parts of balochistan are former afghan territories. They never were and will never be loyal to Pakistan. Even Bacha khan was from Fata utmanzai village not Nwfp. If they call themselves afghans let them it does not not stain our stand 1 bit. However do keep in mind that the reason Fata and northern balochistan is with pakistan today is because of the treachery of their own afghan people who sold them for the price of Sliver/Gold. The reason some of them carry pakistani flags is just like corsicians had different flags when French couldn’t keep them as corsica had different rulers untill permanent French rule. They are in a confused identity status despite the Lar and Bar myth they are called pakistani by afghan officials such as when some afridi tribials wanted to settle down in Eastern Afghanistan in 2014.
You might not have believied it. But do you who The border pashtuns and Afghans hate the most? Pakistani Pashtuns. Yes that’s right they hate nwfp pakistani pashtuns tribes more then even “Dal khor” punjabis.Do you know why that is?. As a pothwari-punjabi we actually have very good relations with pashtuns of Nwfp. Like I mentioned earlier there have been pashtun punjabi marriages even thouh we mostly don’t marry outside biradri especially to pashtuns. Sikhs are sicilians. The pashtuns of Nwfp are the Southern italians of pakistani. It not punjabis who are racist to pashtuns its the Baloch who like Northern Italians look down on the southern Italians Napolitians. The Baloch look to Iran like the northern Italian look to northern Spanish for inspiration even though the ethnic Persians in Iran see the Baloch in sistan-balochistan as the southern Spainih equivalent of Iran. Just like Spain and France are on friendly terms despite the occasional hicup the afghans view the Iranians same way.
Despite the southern Italian style noisy eccentric culture the pashtuns of nwfp are anti fascist just like southern Italians. in turn they are hated by the northern Italian and French like the baloch and afghans.
The pashtuns of nwfp are loyal.And why not Considering the centuries separation between afghans and pakistani pashtuns. In fact many of the pashtun tribes in Pakistan have no trace of afghan blood original. Kpk nwfp is their Home and they have no genetic link to afghans who are Iranian inspir. Pakistan is the only land where pashto like southern Italy language culture pervails. They voted for Pakistan in 1947 and they want to see their contribution in. Tribes like yousafzai, marwat, khattak, are almost entirely pakistani. It’s not pakistani pashtuns who support or protect afghans. Do you know who are the biggest supporters of afghans in Pakistan?. Some Punjabis.) in 2014 APS terrorist attack happened. The biggest place of location where afghan migrant were sent back was Kpk more then all of the other provinces combined.! Just like the French hate Italians including in sports rivalries. The Afghans hate pakistani pashtuns. E. G. When France claims Italian territory the Italians call for getting back Italian heritage in France. That’s why Pakistani pashtuns claim afghan territory in response to afghan claim on pakistani land. Pakistani claim have more credebility anyways as kabul was ruled more by mughals then afghan or Persian. Another reason is the pashtuns in military Fc.
Although just like northern and Southern Italians are better at making Pizzaeria. Pakistani Pashtuns are better at making chapli kebabs then makogood soldiers.
The amount of time sikh had wars with pashtuns and won is similar to Sicilian hatred and wars against Southern italian napolitians.
The key is recognising who you are dealing with. Don’t mix disloyal with loyal. Pashtuns of Afghan heritage or stock will never be sincere to pakistan. As they have a fascist gene. Niazi, tareen, lodhi duranni are all afghan and had heritage of Kings queens. They feel superior against pakistani pashtuns and look down on them as pakistani pashtuns mostly had local chieftains instead of Kings or kingdoms.
Shazaib khan khattak was killed by sharukh jatoi and his lashari talpur friends. No pashtun organization had the courage to speak out. Punjabi organizations societies at the time in were busy trying to seek justice accountability in media/courts.
Border pashtun organization PTM spoke out against rao Anwar but not his pakistani sindh police lieutenants marwat and yousafzai. PTM manzoor pishtee was barred from visiting site of nishaen haider. Recently In cricket it was the Pakistani pashtun hero from frontie who put contribution in win against Afghanistan. The midget tribial rizwan just like racist tribial Gul raised no objection to afghan gonda gardi.
That’s why I say you can never appease Border Pashtuns as they will stab you in the back without a blink because they have same Afghanistan dna.
Jahila afridi was given title of “Lala” and how did he reward his title honor by openly abusing displaying racism against Sindhi Crickeeters in karachi Kings.Khan said meshud was give title of “sajna”, by few idiot punjabi and he rewarded by doing terrorism!.
Part of the reason is that most of figures in pakistani military or political scene have been Afghans. Bring in a yousafzai or khattak to pm position as malala wants to be then see the genuine response from pakistani pashtuns instead of putting afghans who have no love for Pakistan or pakistani pashtuns in polticial scene. Imran khan is afghan not pakistani. The ayub khan yahya khan were also afghan fasscists stock along with jammu Afridi.
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Bhaijan while your concerns are legitimate. If India has chanakya then we have Umro ayyiar written by indo aryan writer. I mentioned at very least 3 more things that are important INd pak population. Brave, beautiful, intelligent, Piety. Indo Pakistani punjabis and indo non pashtun Pakistanis are unique Isense that we win both ways. E. G. If a person flips a coin heads tails and only gets 1 right then in pakistani indc scenerio even if we lose battle we win war. I think Umro ayyiar perfectly illustrates this “ayyiari ka badshah” . There is also another term for it which is nickname for pak cricket team. “Unpredictable”. Outsiders can never figure it what is going on in indc pakistani, we might be sincere in our dealing but they have opposite opinion or they just hate us mistake our hospitality for weakness. In that case there no option but to fight This is different to appeasement where you know your actions are not correct but you are trying to appease which is not a indoc policy. its not rocket science.
Just small example nawaz sharif is an internationalist, he would have never recognised or tolerated taliban 2.0.However beggar khan sold himself in desperation for throne thinking he was king and above every1 else. The establishment used him and threw him away like they did non indo aryan prime ministers. If the idiots at GHQ had any sense they should have known not to use a pashtun espically a “Niazi” to undermine civilian government. Now he has become a bone stuck in their throat. I’m glad Pak miltary has a kala in chief as highest officer to expose kalakh of corrupt military. When people mention Punjabi culture usually at first there is a glance back at pre partition punjab region. Due to horrific partition the scars and wounds have become permanent in the pak indc cycle. After the Nazi holocaust in ww2 the partition genocide led to 2.3 million kashimiri, Punjabi sunni muslims slaughtered for the crime of pratcising our religion.
Unlike others we did not initiate/participate slave trade or the pogroms against Jews. We cannot comprise on our beliefs. Diversity of pak is an asset and we should try and safe guard it. However our efforte should not be undermined by pashtuns, Muhajir,Brahui Shia. We are 1 of best Muslims and our traditions religion should be respected by non indcs at least its not a cause of worry or concern for them. The Pashtuns shia, muhajir baloch can do what ever in their laws we don’t have an issue with them. E. G. Joyland was made by the usual mob. Its their life which they have tried to put on others but have failed will fail. Yes the anti sodomy blasphemy laws were created by british but what did punjabi muslims think before? It was because of punjabi muslim resistance that akbar had to abandon his evil attempt to impose his deen e elahi. Guess where it succeded? Afghanistan and Pashtun areas and India E. G. pir roshan movement came from that.
Therefore under no circumstances should Pashtun,Baloch, turkic mughal Shia be included under punjabi or Pakistai indc catogery. I. E. Shia artists of punjabi songs sing or recite from sunni punjab writers poets anyway.
My issertion of indoc Muslims as 1 of best Muslims ever has wide and strong claims. I. E. G in my opinion mughal and turks do not qualify as under banner punjabi muslim. Because if that’s so then we also have to share in their blame of atrocities against others Sikhs which we clearly did not do. Also the so called mughal architecture is not central Asian or Iranian its indo Islamic architecture.
This exceptionalism is what others hate about us including Indians. This club is exclusive only for indc ppl member. People celebrating Sachin wannabe greaseball yellow rizwan or imran fascist its up to them. However indoc pakistanii races should not marry non Indc otherwise you get ugly sajal aly and feroze khan like people with muhajir and Pashtun mentaltity.
Only a Shia can be a jinnah and there already is 1 in owaisi of India. It does not bother me at all. Diversity is our strength. We have numerous examples of our own hero’s and leaders. Long before Indian jinnah punjabi muslims were already in muslim league. The 2 nation theory was not his to begin with as he was busy licking balls of Congress before pakistanis rescued his campaign from failure.
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Broh sarang I like your enthusiasm but often you get so many things wrong. Morocco and Egypt are the Russia and China of Middle East. They are very close to India despite pakist helping them diplomaticly with independence. The Palestinians also been supported but they never mention kashmir. The Palestinians supported Hitler in ww2.
They paid us back by terror attacks including in Aps where Moroccans and Egyptians were also involved. When Egypt suppresses Sinai and Morocco occupies western Sahara what can you expect?.
What I am saying is its not pakistans responsibility, we are neutral and should be neutral in arab Palestinian conflict. Yes they are similarities but comparing Israel to Palestine to kashmir wrong. Its more like Northern Ireland,kashimiris are analmost similar to Irish but more 1000x more braver. Like the Irish kashmiris have never accepted slavery. Infact they already have won half of azadi as they know they are occupied, when u kno u are occupied and you struggle for freedom then half of battle is already won. Compare this to Sikhs where many don’t even have acknowledge they are ghulam .
The places you have mentioned in in various places in world they have a history of Liberal or secular values heritage.its not surprising why much of west has wokism as ideology. The world is global and there nothing wrong with ideas. If you want to fight this battle you have do it with logic and History. You mentioned something about iqbal Afghanistan well here is a fact for you. Pashtun nationalists are not really followers of iqbal. Iqbal said the pashtuns “don’t know the secrets of Islam” . He exposed them for what they were saying tpashtuns have nothing to do With islam. It’s not just iqbal many scholars through out the past centuries confirmedit. Even rehmat ali did not place pashtuns as above or special. He regarded fata northern balochistan as afghania and did not expect them to join pak scheme because of support for Congre.
There is nothing wrong with what others want. We have already been through this. I mentioned to u the assertion of indic races as 1 of best Muslims ever. You know the British when they occupied punjab they tried this game of placing whoreshouses like they did in Up bihar next to Islamic pak sites. Guess where they were successful in non indic areas. They turned Shahi mohalla in to a prostitution area thinking punjabi Muslims won’t come to pray as it is close to Badshahi mosque and they will engage in this practise instead of going to mosque. Guess what punjabi Muslims stood it out and engaged with them both physically and intellectually. From thats where center of anjuman e Islam came into being. They did the same in pashtun areas but pashtuns have nothing to do with and they didn’t bother British. I already mentioned they opened a. Red light district in peshawar that was only closed after independence by Dardic chitralis as they set up their own businesses community houses etc.
When the British realised they couldn’t break the will of indic Muslims they gave up and began more and more exclusively courting Sikhs Pashtuns for favours. Why do you think from 47 to 72 most pak military political leadership was non indic? its because these groups had no qualms doing things which indic Muslims would not do. There are 2 qoums in South asia which can not be saved. Sikhs-Pashtuns you should not even try you will only wasting your effort.
And you never ever appease Pashtuns For example pashtuns accepted “Dog” style laws by the British this humilaietd bar qoum agreed to live like dogs under FCR laws by British under the British raj. When nawaz sharif scrapped those FCR laws in fata, he suddenly became the biggest enemy of pashtuns. Thepak shouldn’t have done I told u appeasing pashtuns means nothing,this is a brainless quom don’t bother. stop wasting your precious resources on these treacherous peopl. below major all the officers and recruits were mostly punjabi, the British almost never placed indic Muslim at a higher level above major. If they were high ranking officers or ias they were non indic. It was a cluture of British to have people promoted based on English or non Islamic values. That’s why shias and pashtuns were often the most senior officers in military or administrative affairs around time of partition. Having fine outing and whisky was good fun for the shia pashtun ,baloch muhajir political military leaders. That’s why it took a long time for these Lets& captians to challenge the corrupt system. It was in 70s when zia who was Cap at time of partition time over and gave a kick to the Anglo British system. The fact that it took a punjabi to rise up in army position after quarter century speaks volume about the muhajir pashtun nexus england.
So you are telling me some of people are scared of these people these pashtuns who couldn’t even send own goats for grazing in their land without asking British officers for permission.
You know I didn’t want to bring this up. The nishaen e haider karnal sher khan
Could possibly have been given this award as a form of humiliation ‘by indians,’ . He was killed in set up ambush as the raid was badly organised. non pashtun soldiers did not want to follow his plan he called them coward His entire company along with a punjabi rawalpe ssg officer was wiped out by Sikhs. This information I came upon in “justvpunjab” channel kargil segemn and articles on missing soldiers of kargil. I do not know what his heroics were that led to medal but pashtun commander of that area withdrew from that site after his body was returned.
I don’t want to say anything more about this,i respect karnal sher khan scarifse in whatever circumstances it occurred because he fought for pak in the end.
1 would never want to follow a pashtun in to battle as more then enemy you have to keep an eye out on them.
Personally I am not against or for pashtuns. I am indifferent to them and I think this is advice non pashtuns should follow. I have nothing against wokism either. You can’t curtail others freedom this is not the Punjabi way.
Funny clip of javed chaudry about punjabi Muslims is partially true. We don’t like to be in limelight unless we have to. We don’t like to fight unless there is no other option left.
But if an when we do we don’t care much for agar magar .As far as pashtuns are concerned,italy is a considered joke in nato circle. just enjoy chapli kebabs and their comedy. Leave the fighting for some1on else.
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